This dishwasher is fantastic. For the price it's an amazing dishwasher. If it was more expensive it would still be an amazing dishwasher. I'm sorry to hear it is no longer being made. With a 12 place setting, it is the same size as the 14 place setting. This sounds like a negative - but what it means is there is more space between each dish which results in excellent cleaning and drying. I so far have only used the normal setting and the heavy setting - both are really good. Pots and pans clean well, and I don't even bother rinsing or removing cheesy sauce remnants because it cleans so good.